Monday, 1 June 2009

The English Democrats claim to not be racist, what gives with Steve Uncles?

The English Democrats like having little wars with people, this week it's B&D and that's just fine. John has been doing a great job in showing just how much shit this party talks and in particular Steve Uncles, their South East candidate and high flyer.

The Steve Uncles that doesn't get the difference between patriotism and nationalism and likes to accuse people who kill themselves of being 'self-haters' because they 'hate' England. Apparently we also hate England, according to some members of the Democracy Forum this is because John is a Greek cunt who should fuck off back to his own country.

As a party, as John as shown with great aplomb, they are a nut job one issue bunch of loons who have hijacked the West Lothian debate for their own right wing nationalist reasons and spend most of their time in petty arguments with the BNP. On the surface, as has been mentioned on other sites the arguments are fine, but all a bit low key in the current grand scheme of things.

They also seem to attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner.

Not so says Robin Tillbrook
We're not about race, but campaign on English identity. Home is where the heart
is. Colour is not relevant.
Fair enough you might think. The guy is simply campaigning for proper English representation at a national level within the Union. A nationalistic representation a la Cymru and the SNP, but representation all the same and based on the Act of Union being a clever secret takeover by Imperialist Scots of their arch enemy.

But something just doesn't really add up. What could it be other than the rampant anti-Greek rantings on that forum...oh yes:
A Polish guy drinks his beer then suddenly throws his glass in the air,
pulls out a pistol and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, 'In Poland our
glasses are so cheap that we don't need to drink from the same glass
twice'.

A Pakistani, obviously impressed by this, drinks his beer, throws the glass
into the air, pulls out his AK-47 and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, 'In
Pakistan we have so much sand to make glasses that we don't need to drink out of
the same glass twice either.'

A English chap, cool as a cucumber, picks up his beer and drinks it, throws
the glass into the air, pulls out his gun and shoots the Pole and the Pakistani
and catches his glass.

He says, 'In England we now have that many Pakistanis and Poles that we
don't have to drink with the same ones twice.

God Bless England!

That was posted by one Steve Uncles on the Democracy Forum back in February. It's funny stuff I'm sure you will agree and the shooting of the Pakistani and the Pole, and the choice of races, is just first class comedy. But what's this? It's the follow up comment from someone called 'Tarka', who I presume is an Otter with amazing computer skills:

Very funny!

Here's one >

What happens when Jew with an erection walks into a wall? He breaks his
nose.



Pure gold, a true hero of the alternative scene. The selection of the big nosed Jew is a classic. So we have the Jew, the Asian/Muslim and an Eastern European. Two of which are dead in hilarious fashion and one has his big nose all broken and bloody. Lovely stuff.

Not, I repeat not racist.

He does have a facespace page for those who are interested, where we use his large cranial mass to ask the immortal question 'Who is Charles Clarke?', to be fair, this is one of the questions of our time and I'm pleased hi grasp of British politics so astute. He also states in his profile "I look forward to the day when I can celebrate my English Identity, without the implication that I am "Racist or a Bigot"", indeed.

He likes to post lots of lovely links to other sites, one of which is this lovely ditty.

Uncles then has this quite amazing explanation of the BNP and EDP on the forum:
Nick Griffan your leader lives in Wales of course.

That's why the BNP use the Union Jack as their flag (British Flag

The English Democrats use the Cross of St George (English Flag)I think that people
are starting to understand the difference !

Oh I see then, now I get it. The difference is purely the flaggy bit and where the leader lives. By his own words, that's it. And they have the Union flag because he lives in Wales, it's that simple people, all the EDP chaps live in England and so have the good old Cross for a symbol. I can only presume that if Griffan lived in Dorset then the BNP would be called the ENP and have the Cross of St G as their symbol too, at which point there would be nothing to tell the two parties apart.

Tillbrook is, of course, pretty quiet on this whole area and plays the removed campaigner for England and St.George (they don't seem to have an issue with being members of that particular middle eastern religion, although of course, they are not racist so why would they). He writes in The Sun about how England will be split into European regions and Scotland has its Claim of Right. And all the time he states that his party is not racist.

Accept for the massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's members and leading light Mr Steve 'Self Hater' 'Not A Racist' 'In England We Now Have That Many Pakistanis And Poles That We Don't Have To Drink With The Same Ones Twice' 'Bang Bang' Uncles.

42 comments:

SteveShark said...

Aha! I see you found Uncles' jokes, too!
What a riot he must be at parties and family gatherings...

He's not even as funny as Bernard Manning, who was as funny as a bad case of piles.

Kevin Boatang said...

Well after hearing rumours of some serious Peter Cook genius I just had to seek them out to get it forst hand.

I nearly pissed myself when the Pole got shot and had to leave the room when the Jew smashed his nose becasue, get this, Jews have...big noses!

It is reassuring though that he isn't in anyway racist and this is just, of course, freedom of speech in the face of the PC Brigade. Who are Scotish no doubt.

God I wish I didn't hate myself so much for being a wet lefty.

Obnoxio The Clown said...

You wet lefty!

Kevin Boatang said...

Sopping mate!

Mr Rob said...

Gentlemen

While SteveShark and I have been over on the Shite Site, it appears that a moderator has banned Uncles for a week for posting a sick thread.

Now this may seem a tad suspicious, given that Uncles only has to open his mouth to put his foot in it, and he is now saved having to answer any more questions until after the election - and he started his suicide gloating/threatening routine which I reckon is pretty sick, days ago. But let us see if the moderator replies to what I have written him.

In the meantime, would you care to go over there and invite Uncles over here, in the spirit of freedom of speech and the democratic process?
That is if you have enough Harpic and Domestos in stock....

SteveShark said...

I've just been mildly insulting there and I'm not going back again.
There are some people there who are so stupid that I'll only end up really being abusive and then I'll get banned.
I'd rather bow out on my own terms.
That doesn't mean I won't keep posting here and on my blog though.
To be honest, it's like cleaning out a sewer going on there.

Mr Rob said...

Agree with you there SteveShark.

I've just been beating my head against a wall trying to talk sensibly to a pin-head that posts as "Englander1" - his favourite and only way of communication is the false alternative, eg

"Have you come here just to be disruptive, or are you a terrorist?"

"Are you a commie bastard or do you agree with us?"

Why he expects adults to fall for this heaven knows. He also likes asking "What is your agenda?" like some demented Vogon stuck on repeat.

Apparently he is called David Lane and he is their National Secretary and Lead Candidate for the West Midlands.....

Sheer class...

SteveShark said...

The phrase 'scraping the bottom of the barrel' springs to mind.

John Demetriou said...

"Apparently he is called David Lane and he is their National Secretary and Lead Candidate for the West Midlands.....

Sheer class..."

You're joking, right?

Oh for fuck sake.

Another lead candidate for this outfit with nil brains.

Absolutely amazing - there was me thinking, again with immense naivity, that other candidates for the EDP must be cringing with embarassment about Mr U.

Lo and behold, I am proven wrong yet again, as more seniors are exposed as being bereft of intelligence and moderate, rational thought processes.

Surely this has to serve as a catalyst to get me writing once more on the English Democrats and their net-based moutpiece, 'The Shite Site'?

Oops, I feel a piece coming on right now! Darn it, I wish this wouldn't happen...

Mr Rob said...

John

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/english-democrats/62472-uncles-criticism-truth.html

Englander1 makes his appearance on page 3 (ironic seeing as he is an utter tit). Toque reveals his identity a little later.

Watch out fo rthe false alternatives and the agenda question!

SteveShark said...

I got sick of being asked what my politics were. I did answer once. Then when I was asked again I told them to hunt about as I'd already said.
Do you know what they remind me of?
Jehovah's Witnesses.
They get you talking as a 'way in'.
It's exactly the same.
I'll always remember what my dear uncle (RIP) once told me - 'a fuck off always offends'.
That's my usual tack with JWs and others of that ilk.
I left the EDF as soon as I realised it would come to me having a swearfest.
By the way, they seem to have a swear filter on.
Easily circumvented so those cu'nts can still see some real Anglo Saxon...

John Demetriou said...

Great work guys.

And, er, OOOPS! I appear to have joined the 'Democracy' Forum and posted a thread. Although 'moderators' need to approve it first.

So if it doesn't appear, many acts of kindness have been granted to the EDP body politic in the run up to Thursday.

I will now quickly craft an article which facilitates the debate I have requested of Stevey Uncles.

Mr Rob said...

Hell's Bells

Toque has kicked-off over there. His thread entitled Alan England is all about my dear friend Cassie, with a series of choice quotes that no one is denying!

He really is a brave bloke that Toque.

SteveShark said...

Kicked off?

He's riffin'!

That's rock 'n' roll, that is.

Englander 1 - "Do you want to talk?...are you all right?"

Like some sort of great aunt.

As someone once said - you couldn't make this shit up.

John Demetriou said...

I'm more than impressed with Toque. I'm also very impressed with (and I only recently found this out to my genuine shame) 'peekay', who is in fact none other than Paul Kingsnorth.

Good blokes. I think they have principles, sincerely held beliefs, intelligence and above all on this occasion - bollocks.

Keep it up, the bally lot of you.

New article up.

Time for change said...

What a sad mess this has turned into. I can say from my 5 months participation where I went to one meeting (the large one where the SNP gave a presentation, the Liberal party where there etc.) the people I met there certainly weren't racists. I would imagine those people like myself have quit the party. Uncles behaviour is disgusting and when I found out about the EFP link that was the nail in the coffin for me!

I wouldn;t judge all ex-EDP members by the standards being set now. In fact there are probably a fair few of us who feel totally disenfranchised with that state of politics and would like to see a party fighting Englands corner that isn't based on race politics, morons and other such ilk.

Toque said...

Toque reveals his identity a little later.That makes it sound as if I am hiding my identity. There's a Toque hyperlink underneath my posts on the BDF that links to my blog, which is not anonymous.

I run WEMtM and the Witan, and occasionally write for Our Kingdom.

Anonymous said...

Do you have any links to these jokes? Why would any intelligent person believe what you're saying?
What you're stating has to be verified first. Of course, you could've stated why shouldn't he be allowed to say what he wants! Oh yeah, you do not believe in freedom of speech.
You are obviously picking on one person and trying to insinuate that ANY person who has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with English nationalism and/or the English democrats is a bigot! I was waiting for this to happen. The English democrats must be getting too popular huh? Why would EUROlander new labour want to tarnish them otherwise? It isn't even a new trick you lot are trying. Ha! ha! Also, maybe Uncles is a stooge. Oh yeah, that's too obvious right?

Kevin Boatang said...

Anon,

I will try and keep this brief, because it appears you may have some problems.

You ask me to provide a link. There is a fucking link you bell end. Everything in bold is a link, which is why it's in bold, there are links to his facebook, there is a link to the exact thread where the jokes are made.

I suggest you grasp the concept of links, visit them, then come back and tell me again that I have made it up.

"Oh yeah, you do not believe in freedom of speech"

Um, I think you will find that I do. Should he be allowed to say such jokes? If he wants, if he really feels that he has to.

Does his right to say them mean they are correct? Of course it doesn't, only an idiot of the highest order would argue that point. It's racist, simple as that.

"EUROlander new labour ", this is where I decided you have the IQ of a small melon. For starters I am against much of the EU, as is the LPUK. Secondly I am quite clearly not new labour.

"Ha! ha!"

Cock.

Anonymous said...

Me stating, "Why would any intelligent person believe what you're saying? and "What you're stating has to be verified first" does not qualify you to state, "come back and tell me again that I have made it up."
I did not state that you had made anything up!
If you want people to take you seriously you should try and act like an adult. Typing immature comments like "I decided you have the IQ of a small melon", and "cock" at the end of posts leads everyone to believe that you're, oh let me see, about nine years of age...if that! Exactly how old are you?

You obviously do not believe in freedom of speech, OR freedom expression for the English people. You stated: "Should he be allowed to say such jokes? If he wants, if he really feels that he has to."
Whether he has to or not has nothing to do with you. It is HIS CHOICE; not yours. You just don't get it do you?
You wannabe pinko bastards are so full of shite. "Does his right to say them mean they're correct"? His jokes weren't "correct"? Oh so a joke has to fit YOUR idea of what constitutes correctness huh? FUCK OFF YOU TWAT! Nobody has to ask high and fuckin' mighty you whether they have permission to tell a fuckin' joke or not! Get it? Nobody! Who the hell do you think you are?
It seems as though you should go somewhere else mate. Somewhere where people like to tell each other what to do. England isn't that place. Yeah go to Cyprus. See how they treat each other out there. I have been there and the place is a crap hole. Of course it didn't occur to you that England is a decent place because the English people have consistently refused to bow to tyrants did it? By the way, you do not decide what is acceptable. You pathetic control freak.

You complain and cry about "racist" this, "racist" that; you're the racist! YOU are the one who thinks, no demands, that the English not be allowed a voice. Too bad mate! We're going to have our voice heard by hook or by crook! Whichever comes first.
"...It's racist, simple as that."

Answer me this
How can anyone be racist when according to some, there are no races? It is highly unintelligent to ramble on about race this, race that when sociobiologists state that there are no races. You do agree of course?

John Demetriou said...

This was my best bit:

"You wannabe pinko bastards are so full of shite"

Yeah, proper left wing us.

Yes, 'us'. There are two of us. The chap who wrote the comment to which you allude is not the Cypriot scum bag you rail against - that'd be me.

I'm obviously not going to humour you on the majority of your vile rant. Though has it occured to you to read, calmly and objectively, what I have actually written about the English cause? If you had, then you'd know I was not anti the cause or against feelings of unfairness, vis a vis the West Lothian question.

You obviously despise us, and I believe this is based on the fact that:

a) we disagree with the EDP
b) we have publically disagreed with certain members within the EDP

and the most important one of all:

c) you are furious that this blog name has a foreign ring to it and this angers you immensely because you want me/us/whoever seems 'un-English' to fuck off to whence they came.

Do tell me the difference between this sentiment and the sentiments offered up by the BNP? Because I can't see it myself, 'anonymous'?

SteveShark said...

My favourite bit was:
"Of course it didn't occur to you that England is a decent place because the English people have consistently refused to bow to tyrants did it?"
A strange thing to say of a monarchy where for many centuries the reigning king or queen had the power of life and death over people.
Surely that's tyranny?

Mr Rob said...

OOOhh

I didn't know things were still continuing on this thread, so firstly and importantly, my apologies to Toque if my clumsy use language inferred that he had been concealing his identity - it certainly was not meant. The problem may also stem from my never bothering to try to find out who I'm talking to on blogs - it's what is said that counts - unless, of course, they happen to want to represent me and pocket some of my hard-earned confiscated wonga!
Many apologies Toque.

Kevin - "You ask me to provide a link. There is a fucking link you bell end." I enjoyed that immensely.

SteveShark said...

Yeah, I thought this thread was dead until I found Anonymous' contribution.
I find more pleasant things in my cats' litter tray...

Anonymous said...

Demetriou said...
"Yeah, proper left wing us."
I stated wannabe pinko bastards! Do you know what wannabe means?
Anyway, your protesting is irrelevant. You're fascists no matter what you say. I suggest you look up the word fascism. You seek to silence a legimate political party by discrediting it. I note you haven't touched my comment about how you're picking on one person and insinuating that the whole party has the same ideals. Generalising? Really? I didn't think you liked it. If you're going to generalise why can't everyone else? Well?

"Yes, 'us'. There are two of us. The chap who wrote the comment to which you allude is not the Cypriot scum bag you rail against - that'd be me."

Oh there you go again. Stating that I typed something I did not infact type. Show me where I labelled anyone a scumbag. I didn't! So, not only do you generalise about English folk; but you also lie. You aren't looking very creditable. Infact, if I were coming across this website for the first time, i'd think you were a pair of lying idiots. Plus, it isn't my fault that you can't stand the fact that England is a better place to reside in than many other places around the world.

"I'm obviously not going to humour you on the majority of your vile rant."

That is because you can't! It is beyond your capabilities!
It is obvious that if you answer my questions you are going to be shown up for what you are. Of course, people like you do not want to show their true agenda.

"...has it occured to you to read, calmly and objectively, what I have actually written about the English cause? If you had, then you'd know I was not anti the cause or against feelings of unfairness, vis a vis the West Lothian question."

I did read it. So? I never commented on any of that.

"You obviously despise us, and I believe this is based on the fact that we disagree with the EDP
we have publically disagreed with certain members within the EDP and you are furious that this blog name has a foreign ring to it and this angers you immensely because you want me/us/whoever seems 'un-English' to fuck off to whence they came."

What a load of rot! "You obviously despise us" Ha! ha! Only a self-rightous narsissist would state that. I do not know you. I do not have any feelings for or against you. I don't care what you think; but I will defend England, Englishness, and the English folk. This is my choice and you can't do anything about it. I AM against the shite you spew.
A foreign sounding website? Aha! ha! ha! Stop trying to tar everyone who disagrees with you as a *shock horror I said the "R" word * racist. Every good little anti-English, p.c. arsehole screams "you're a racist" when they're losing the argument. Oh, and they do not answer people's questions either!

Anonymous said...

"Do tell me the difference between this sentiment and the sentiments offered up by the BNP? Because I can't see it myself, 'anonymous'?"

"This sentiment"? What sentiment?

Oh damn me to the lake of fire for saying what I thought. Oh yeah and of course you're not a control freak! Like hell you're not!
That is why you have to invent sentiments like a child.
"you want me/us/whoever seems 'un-English' to fuck off to whence they came."
I never typed that.
I stated:
It seems as though you should go somewhere else mate. Somewhere where people like to tell each other what to do. England isn't that place. Yeah go to Cyprus. See how they treat each other out there. I have been there and the place is a crap hole.

Of course, only a control freakery loving fascist (who cannot bare to lose an argument) would attempt to turn the above comment into the following "fact"
"[Boo! Hoo! Sob! Sob!] you want...[the]'un-English' to fuck off to whence they came."
How purile. No! I never mentioned anything about the "un-English". Not once. People can read what I typed to. I am sure they can interpret it for themselves. They do not need you to try and twist what was typed. Oh I am so sorry that you can't control everybody. What a shame huh?

SteveShark said...
"Of course it didn't occur to you that England is a decent place because the English people have consistently refused to bow to tyrants did it?"

A strange thing to say of a monarchy where for many centuries the reigning king or queen had the power of life and death over people. Surely that's tyranny?

Yeah typical pinko wannabes. You get thrashed on one subject so you try to bring up some other subject that you can rubbish England and the English folk about. Plus, you took my comment out of context. The whole point of that comment had NOTHING at all to do with religion or monarchy. So, can you at least try to pay attention to what is being stated. Oh of course, you'll refuse to do that. You can't continue to discredit the English if you answer honestly huh? Ha! ha! I don't know who is paying you; but I hope they get people who can actually debate the point next time. You two are next to useless!

By the way, tyranny means
arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power.
the government or rule of a tyrant or absolute ruler.
a state ruled by a tyrant or absolute ruler.
oppressive or unjustly severe government on the part of any ruler.
undue severity or harshness.

Anyway, why are you deliberately confusing the United Kingdom's monarchy with absolute monarchy. The two are entirely different. Oh yeah, I forgot, it's all part of your anti-Englishness!

Absolute monarch:
In an absolute monarchy, the monarch rules as an autocrat, with absolute power over the state and government—for example, the right to rule by decree, promulgate laws, and impose PUNISHMENTS.
If England or the UK has ever had an absolute monarch i'd like to know who it was.

In a constitutional monarchy the monarch is largely a ceremonial figurehead subject to a constitution. Sovereignty rests formally with and is carried out in name of The Crown, but politically rests with the people as represented by the parliament or other legislature. Constitutional monarchs have limited political power, and are constituted by tradition and precedent, popular opinion, or by legal codes or statutes. They serve as symbols of continuity and the state and carry out largely ceremonial functions.

Have you ever heard of the English Magna Carta? The Bill of rights? I seem to think the former had quite a lot to do with a certain King of England.

John Demetriou said...

*sigh*

Bored now.

I will posit one question for poor, poor 'anonymous', who has worked himself up into such a violent stupour about all this that his posts go on and on as though he has forgotten what he set out to write in the first place.

You've got more tangents in your inane ramblings than a trigonometry text book.

Here it comes:

If I was such a control freak, would I not put comments on moderation and filter them before they appeared on the site?

And if I were a super duper control freak, would I not investigate our stats software more closely to see who it is who is making threats against me, along the lines of:

"I sincerely hope you get what's coming your way"?

Call me old fashioned, but from where I'm from, that statement is the sort of stuff that lands one in front of a Magistrates court for harrassment.

I do hope you can explain your meaning, anonymous contributor.

SteveShark said...

Mr Anonymous needs to read some books on English monarchs between about 1066 and James I.

"the monarch rules as an autocrat, with absolute power over the state and government—for example, the right to rule by decree, promulgate laws, and impose PUNISHMENTS.
If England or the UK has ever had an absolute monarch i'd like to know who it was."

Pretty much all of them.

As for the Magna Carta, it was forced on King John by the nobles and wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

What an ignoramus.

Anonymous said...

"You've got more tangents in your inane ramblings than a trigonometry text book."

Blah blah blah mate. That's about all you're capable of, i.e. making stupid comments.
WHY can't you answer all of the questions I ask? Why not? How old are you?

What I stated about your control freakery IS NOT devalued because you decide to waffle
"If I was such a control freak, would I not put comments on moderation and filter them
before they appeared on the site?" You allow posts and this does not make you a control freak huh?
Your aim appears to be to get English people on this
site angry so you can then very childishly state, "see, I told you what they were like?"
Your immature trick (if you can call it that) doesn't prove that your opinion is correct.
It just proves that you're, in my opinion, an annoying idiotic bigot. It obviously wouldn't help your anti-English agenda to delete
posts!
Harrassment? Ha! ha! I haven't repeatedly attacked you. Besides that, you are consistently replying to my posts.
Am I making you reply? No! You obviously enjoying reading my coherant and intelligent posts.
Did you forget defamation of character, libel, and slander. Let me see.
Slander is the spoken word. Libel is the written word or electronic broadcast. Defamation of
character is obvious. Oh, what about a dignatary tort? A personal tort? A primae facie tort?
You are such a tortfeasor! Honestly! Some folk ask for it.
Which do you think you're guilty of then? I would imagine you are guilty of hearsay and the
deliberately spreading thereof. I think women call it gossip! How do you know Mr Uncles was
the person typing what you read? You do not know. How can you know? YOU claimed that it was
him typing but what if someone else got onto his identity? You could easily be defaming him. Ha! ha!

What does "I sincerely hope you get what's coming your way" mean? Well, what does "Another lead candidate for this outfit with nil brains" mean?
What does
"There is a fucking link you bell end" constitute?
What does "The chap who wrote the
comment to which you allude is not the Cypriot scum bag you rail against - that'd be me" mean?

What about "YOU obviously despise us, and I believe this is based on the FACT that we
disagree with the EDP, we have publically disagreed with certain members within the EDP
and the most important one of all, you are furious that this blog name has a foreign
ring to it (Opps! Another defamatory statement) and this angers you immensely because you
want me/us/whoever seems 'un-English' to fuck off to whence they came" ? (I never stated that either)

What about this? "poor 'anonymous', who has worked himself up into such a violent stupour
about all this that his posts go on and on as though he has forgotten what he set out to write in the first place."
"What an ignoramus." Do you think this is defamatory?

Lastly, Demetriou made the comment, "And thanks for the not-so veiled threat against my person at the end there.
A threat, I am sure, [you] would not have typed had [you] known anything about me."

What veiled threat against your person? I hope you get what's coming your way? Ha! ha!
So you're going to cry about that huh? Well, that is funny, especially as you made a threatening comment toward
my person, i.e. you more or less
stated, you wouldnt have dared make that threat if you knew me. I found that alarming. It also caused me substantial
emotional distress.
Well, I am glad that you can finally be yourself Demetriou. And to think you wasted all that time on trying
to make out that you're a libertarian! You are obviously no libertarian!
AHA! HA! HA! This website gets funnier by the second.

Anonymous said...

If England or the UK has ever had an absolute monarch i'd like to know who it was."

Pretty much all of them.

Such as? So, you're saying that what, 95% of monarchs were autocrats? What monarchs? Anyway, I am talking about now, not 300 years ago. Oh yeah, it suites you to bring up the past huh?

As for the Magna Carta, it was forced on King John by the nobles and wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

The Magna Carta wasn't worth the paper it was written on huh?
Can anyone say contemptuous?

"What an ignoramus"

How very mature of you.

Kevin Boatang said...

Anon, do you read any of this back?

Because trust me, you come across as someone with serious issues. The repeated use of 'Ha! Ha!', exclamation marks and long, dense paragraphs simply shows that you cannot argue your point and have to resort to ranting.

You have asked me earlier about verification of the jkokes. I find this really quite odd, because I failt o see how much more verified something can be than the statement by the person in question.

You're accusations of us as fascists and control freaks is bizarre in the extreme. Jiohn shows how open we are witha complete lack of any moderations or censorship, let alone time delays. You comment, it goes up, we and others are free to debate that point and you are free to respond.

Racism. This is the classic anti-pc bullshit. If you slander or use ina detrimental manner another race in a joke that is racist. It is not my view that it is racist, it is a simple fact. Making a joke about shooting a Pakistani is obviously racist.

But he has the freedom to say it. No matter how many times I say this you refuse to accept my total beleif in freedom of speech and expression.

Monarchs. For fuck sake pal, you're own use of language has caused this entire situation. You stated "... ever had an absolute monarch".

Ever. That is the key word. When Steve then turns around and shows you 'ever', you then say "I am talking about now, not 300 years ago".

You can't just switch from 'ever' to 'now' mid-argument.

And why not just use your name, or a handle? I couldn't careless what your real name is, but Anon, is a bit confusing for all.

Kevin Boatang said...

Anon, just to add, I was wondering where in the UK you live. I'm down in London and John is oop North, so we have a pretty decent spread.

I think we can both say that in either end of the country WAR isn't popular. Indeed, WAR isn't mentioned very much anywhere in the UK because we are not really WAR people.

Do you like WAR Anon? You seem a little angry so I was wondering if you were a WARlike person or not?

Just asking.

Anonymous said...

A strange thing to say of a monarchy where for many centuries the reigning king or
queen had the power of life and death over people. Surely that's tyranny?

"Many centuries [ago]"? So not now then huh? It is now we're talking about.

As previously stated, the whole point of my earlier comment had NOTHING at all to do with religion or monarchy. My comment was taken out of context.

I asked a question:
Anyway, why are you deliberately confusing 2009's United Kingdom constitutional monarchy with
absolute monarchy? They are two different things.
No answer was given.

If England or the UK has ever had an absolute monarch i'd like to know who it was.
When Steve then turns around and shows you 'ever', you then say "I am talking about now, not 300 years ago".
You can't just switch from 'ever' to 'now' mid-argument.

Well obviously, you were not referring to 2009.
Why can't I switch? You people do it all the time. That's if you ever answer a direct question in the first place. You condemning me for changing the context is like Stalin whining about "that murderer Hitler". It is laughable in the extreme.

By the way, I label you fascists because you act like fascists.
Fascists forbid and suppress criticism and opposition. You claim not to do that because you let posts stay undeleted. Well, there is more than one way to suppress. Labelling EDP supporters as "racists" is one way. Labelling people who disagree with your agenda as nutters and drug takers are others.
Fascists also believe that nations and races are in conflict.
Regarding economics, fascists have claimed to support a "Third Way" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state communism.

No common and concise definition exists for fascism.

John Demetriou said...

"Labelling EDP supporters as "racists" is one way."

Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist, please.

Also, by responding and commenting on actual comments made, we are not suppressing anyone, merely speaking.

Suppressing would be where I'd ban or censor your comments. Which I haven't done.

Sorry if I have a different view to you and all that. And what with this being my blog and all.

My hearty apologies for suppressing you.

Mr Anonymous, you are without doubt the King of the Non Sequitur.

Anonymous said...

Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"

(1) "All the time he states that his [English democrats] party is not racist. Accept for the
massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's [the English democrats party]
members..."
(N.B. I think you'll find it's except not accept)

(2)"They [the English democrats party]...attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner."

"Racist, bigoted, fascist[s]?

I do not see how you can accuse "[a] massive fucking amount of fucking [EDP members]" of racism and then insinuate that you haven't! They are your statements; not mine.

I think that answers your question.

Like I have stated several times already, I think it's you who is obsessed with race issues. You appear
to have some pathological need to prove that "a massive fucking amount", if not all EDP supporters are, what was it you stated, "racist, bigoted, fascists"? Well, that is your problem; not mine.
By the way, it's quite amusing to see you doing exactly what you hate others doing. That is, labelling people. You appear to be a huge hypocrite. Again, that is your problem; not mine.

Describing people who disagree with your agenda as "nutters" and "drug takers" is another way of
denigrating them. Well done!

Like I have repeatedly stated, you refuse to debate any of the real English issues, preferring instead to
label patriotic English people as "a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts".
I keep talking about the self fulfilling prophecy model, but of course, you either do understand it, or are refusing to understand it. I think it's the latter.
In any case, I doubt you would accept that English nationalists have been created by the constant denigration of England. Like you stated already, patriotic English people are "a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts".
At least you're showing your true colours at last.
You have said that you do not hate England. I have yet to see one positive comment with regard to England from you yet.

John Demetriou said...

Anonymous, we are wasting our time talking to one another.

Now heed this advice once and for all: fuck off.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, we are wasting our time talking to one another.

Now heed this advice once and for all: fuck off.


John Demetriou said...
Don't suppose English Ale is that easy to come by in that State, huh Anon?

Have you ever travalled? No! Of course you aint! You ignorant f*cking sword swallower! skata na fas then pare mou pipa you Malaka.

GORDON BASTARD

“The elections yesterday were a painful defeat for Labour. Too many good people doing so much good for their communities and their constituencies have lost through no fault of their own,” he said.
NO FAULT OF THEIR F*CKING OWN? WHAT A JOKER. He's almost as much of a ^&*( as you are.

John Demetriou said...

Anonymous, you gutless pussy, are you still carrying this on you sad old cunt?

Are you a proud Englishman, 'Anonymous the Gutless'? Really? Then why can't you string a sentence together and why can't you spell words properly?

You illiterate moron.

No-one cares where you're from, what 'kinfolk' or blood you have. Only fucking losers and extremist cunts go on and on about that. So fuck you.

You're also abusing the hospitality this site offers in allowing anonymous contributors to post comments.

Which is obviously un-English, and you're sniggering, trolling ways right now are also un-English.

Go fuck yourself, you sad, sad, sad prick of a 'man'.

Anonymous said...

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Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"

(1) "All the time he states that his [English democrats] party is not racist. Accept for the
massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's [the English democrats party]
members..."
(N.B. I think you'll find it's except not accept)

(2)"They [the English democrats party]...attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner."

Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"

(1) "All the time he states that his [English democrats] party is not racist. Accept for the
massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's [the English democrats party]
members..."
(N.B. I think you'll find it's except not accept)

(2)"They [the English democrats party]...attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner."

Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"

(1) "All the time he states that his [English democrats] party is not racist. Accept for the
massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's [the English democrats party]
members..."
(N.B. I think you'll find it's except not accept)

(2)"They [the English democrats party]...attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner."

Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"

(1) "All the time he states that his [English democrats] party is not racist. Accept for the
massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's [the English democrats party]
members..."
(N.B. I think you'll find it's except not accept)

(2)"They [the English democrats party]...attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner."

Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"

(1) "All the time he states that his [English democrats] party is not racist. Accept for the
massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's [the English democrats party]
members..."
(N.B. I think you'll find it's except not accept)

(2)"They [the English democrats party]...attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner."

Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"

(1) "All the time he states that his [English democrats] party is not racist. Accept for the
massive amount of fucking racism displayed by it's [the English democrats party]
members..."
(N.B. I think you'll find it's except not accept)

(2)"They [the English democrats party]...attract a bunch of racist, bigoted facist cunts to their banner."

Your are one thick mongrel! Did you know?
Dementedriou:
"Find me a quote of where we have called EDP supporters racist?"
Aha! ha! ha! ha! What a fuckin' moron. You aint worth arguing with 'cos you cannot argue back. You talk shite instead. Do you actually know what an issue is? Aha! ha! ha! ha!

Kevin Boatang said...

The special needs bus is on the way, don't worry.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Uncles moron alert: Web Site in Contravention to the 1976 Race Relactions Act - Duncan Borrowman

What's the race relactions act?

WHO GIVES A F8CK?